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The Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt is part of the St. Paul Winter Carnival every year. While the prize can only go to one winner, The Allison Wonderland is dedicated to the community spirit of treasure hunting. Here, not only will you find out about the Pre-Dig Gig, the Rehash Bash, and various other social events, but we also discuss the clues here in a team effort to decipher them (albeit not always successfully). This is a place to discuss ideas respectfully, report on what's happening "on the ground", and provide each other with useful information. This is a public group so expect that anything posted will be seen by everyone.
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Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 19:53
Assuming the previous clue is about Goodhue, here is what I'm thinking. Defining loam from clue #3 leads me to soil and bricks. Goodhue county is known for their clay.   I was informed by a work colleague that Twin City Brick Company of St. Paul utilized clay from what we know as Lilydale near the High Bridge.    Could this be the majestic bounty that connects the parks?    Does anyone wonder if clue #3 from the golden can hunt applies to our hunt? Grasping at a link, the golden can hunt mentioned paddles and there is a paddle share rental site near Lilydale.   Mr. Goodhue's 9 page obituary is an interesting read, in my opinion. https://www.mnopedia.org/group/goodhue-countys-clay-industries

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 19:30
Thanks for sharing David! 

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Re: 2024 Park Pick Pool

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 19:21
Clue 3 picks:
6 Battle Creek
4 Pigs Eye

Re: 2024 Park Pick Pool

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 18:06
Clue three picks: 5- Cherokee 2- Battle Creek 1- Lilydale  1- Bald Eagle 1- Wakefield
Ryan

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 16:21
I disagree about the poor farm. The only park near there is all golf course and baseball fields. There's nowhere to hide it with no snow. especially not if you're going to make a clue that leads there relatively easily so early on.
Personally I think clue 2 is one big red herring. They spend a lot of time in the clue promoting themselves essentially. Figuring out that they're talking about Goodhue (and it is Goodhue) is no big solve for most people. Thus I don't think he will lead us directly to the treasure. But the end of the clue says he shares a name with a county and so does the park. We know it's not Rice Park. Bald Eagle/Otter Lake makes sense with the clue. It's also very large and wooded so such a reveal on Clue 2 is not that dangerous. 
I would guess clue 3 is about what it's hidden in. They make a reference to other golden objects people are looking for, perhaps implying that they also have a golden item or an item covered in something gold. And that item is sitting on loam which I would also take literally to mean hidden in a natural setting.
Now of course there is still the possibility that they just want you to think it's at a place like Bald Eagle as a cover for it really being somewhere else more obscure, but the clues to that will be something much less obvious than anything connected to Goodhue.
Interesting fact if you haven't been looking into Goodhue already. He died just a few years after he arrived here.
David B. Allison

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 03:54:19 PM CST, <pattylammers3@...> wrote:

I agree with you on the poor farm.  I think old/new might be a fairgrounds reference.  state fair was the old site and poor farm is the new fair grounds.

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 16:11
Another thought about the end of Clue 2 - just as James Goodhue has county named after him, perhaps the park we seek is named after a MN pioneer.  

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 16:09
My picks today are:5 Crosby5 Bruce Vento
I'm looking forward to finally noodling the clues as I don't start until Clue 4
-CM

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 15:54
I agree with you on the poor farm.  I think old/new might be a fairgrounds reference.  state fair was the old site and poor farm is the new fair grounds.

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 15:34
I like the Alexander ramsey idea now more than goodhue...ramseys "press" could be the treaty he got the Indians to sign. 

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 15:20
Minnesota Territory was created 175 years ago. Nine counties were established: Benton, Dahkotah, Itasca, Ramsey, Mahkahta, Pembina, Wabashaw, Washington, and Wahnata.

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 14:13
Not sure what to do with this, but "Sincerest flattery or idle chattery?" = imitation

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 13:52
W Goodhue Street takes you to park space along the river near the High Bridge.

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 13:29
I may be underthinking Clue 2, but I think the second part is simply a reference to a park located in Ramsey County.  Alexander Ramsey became the first governor of the Minnesota Territory in 1849 - 175 years ago.

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 13:26
Admittedly I haven't read a ton of posts here yet, but are we completely ignoring the fact that Alexander Ramsey arrived in Minnesota exactly 175 years ago? Everything I've seen posted so far seems like people are convinced this reference is to Goodhue (which is fair given 1849 was also an important year for him...). 

Re: 2024 Park Pick Pool

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 13:23
Clue three guess

10 Goodrich Park in Maplewood

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 12:08
The fairgrounds are alway off limits.
On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:27:42 AM CST, <thetschida@...> wrote:

Snail Lake was on my radar because of Rice St, Rice county and - this is a stretch - tying "bounty" to bountiful harvest to harvesting rice. 

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 11:27
Snail Lake was on my radar because of Rice St, Rice county and - this is a stretch - tying "bounty" to bountiful harvest to harvesting rice. 

Re: 2024 Park Pick Pool

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 11:22
Rebecca Howell GibsonUpper Landing -5Pigs Eye -5

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Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 11:00
Thoughts about that section of clue 2 if it’s not a 1:1 county name:
- Goodhue was the first superintendent of the poor and was around when the first poor farm was purchased near snail lake. The poor farm might be his “county”
- reference to goodhue county ( red wing maybe? I admittedly haven’t tied this out.
- it’s not at the state fair, but that stanza has me more convinced it might be than I have in a very long time. The fair is its own “county”.
Cheers
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:52 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Re: The Hunt for the Golden Beer Can Clue #3

Tue, 01/23/2024 - 10:52
Ah. No, I don't think that means anything. It's just due to different mediums allowing for different widths.
Here is what's puzzling me. It seems to me that the end of clue 2 is pretty clearly saying that the park shares a name with a county. Looking at all the park pool guesses and things people are posting, vey few other people seem to be taking that into account. 


On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:46:56 AM CST, nate roub <nprarmy11@...> wrote:

It's the word chattery
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024, 10:42 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

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