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Sorry. Xcel Energy Center.

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that area. I was there on the last clue ( I rushed over from the Winter Carnival Ice Palace downtown near Excel Center) to watch the ruckus in the pit. No way was I going to get in there.

Another confirmation for Phalen Park?
https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=135563

There are hills in Phalen. There is one by the Lakeside Activity Center and another one towards the back where the mosh pit from 2004 was.
David

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 01:01:24 AM CST, <alfabob1@...> wrote:

'A hero by another name'... could be another way of spelling Zelenksy, President of Ukraine, and refer to Zielinski, one of the Mankato students who found the treasure in Phalen Park in 1973. Someone also said a her by another name could be a sub, as in sandwich. Or Sandwich, Earl of. Earl Street runs into south end of Phalen Park. Earl of Sandwich was from around the 1600's in England, hence the 'Olde English' words in clue 9.
Or a hero or sub sandwich wrapper could be what the medallion is wrapped in, if it is not wrapped in the fruitsicle/ice cream cone package from Sticks and Cones at Farmer's Market in Lowertown.
There's a children playground at Phalen just south of the picnic pavilion. And just south of that, near a parking lot, is the Lakeside Activity Center, which has a hill behind it. Otherwise, I don't see any hills in Phalen, but that's just from the Google map view. I don't have a car to get there.

One more thing at Phalen is the 'Meditation' sculpture, just north of the amphitheater. There is a company called Muse that makes a sort of headband  that helps with meditation and sleeping. https://choosemuse.com/
Oh. And don't forget about the Phalen Poetry Park (west side of Wheelock Pkwy, just south of the Rec Center parking lot) to help 'tackle the rhymes with your brain'.

'A hero by another name'... could be another way of spelling Zelenksy, President of Ukraine, and refer to Zielinski, one of the Mankato students who found the treasure in Phalen Park in 1973. Someone also said a her by another name could be a sub, as in sandwich. Or Sandwich, Earl of. Earl Street runs into south end of Phalen Park. Earl of Sandwich was from around the 1600's in England, hence the 'Olde English' words in clue 9.
Or a hero or sub sandwich wrapper could be what the medallion is wrapped in, if it is not wrapped in the fruitsicle/ice cream cone package from Sticks and Cones at Farmer's Market in Lowertown.
There's a children playground at Phalen just south of the picnic pavilion. And just south of that, near a parking lot, is the Lakeside Activity Center, which has a hill behind it. Otherwise, I don't see any hills in Phalen, but that's just from the Google map view. I don't have a car to get there.

One more thing at Phalen is the 'Meditation' sculpture, just north of the amphitheater. There is a company called Muse that makes a sort of headband  that helps with meditation and sleeping. https://choosemuse.com/
Oh. And don't forget about the Phalen Poetry Park (west side of Wheelock Pkwy, just south of the Rec Center parking lot) to help 'tackle the rhymes with your brain'.

https://www.shakespeareswords.com/Public/LanguageCompanion/ThemesAndTopics.aspx?TopicId=40
Shakespearian words. Old English. Archaic. 

Gotta be an anagram involving "saith,' as it's not sayeth

I bring up the 1992 one just because I see it had lighted arches. Maybe the clue is just alluding to ice palaces in general and maybe the ice palace monument in Phalen specifically?
David 

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:09:39 AM CST, JT <jotiff1@...> wrote:

1986 at Phalen 
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:04 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Okay sleuths, Noodler's extraordinaire, why printeth the Old English say ye? 

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 11:46:27 PM CST, Allison Wonderland via groups.io <allisonwondrland@...> wrote:

Here is the new clue

Clue #9
I entered at night, and could see an arched light
And fields where children playeth
If you want exact location, well, that's not my vocation
Where it is? I'll no saith

And the previous clues:

Clue #8
Not with cape, but maybe rake, A hero, by another name, With studious guys, searched for the prize
And up north the puck did claim.
Clue #7
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

Clue #6
Stop all your prattle, you were born for battle
Defend your liberties and rights
Be ever so bold to seize silver and gold
By keeping the prize in your sights

Clue #5
Have you the right stuff to seek diamond in rough?
Then scrounge through stick and cone
If you want a big thrill look for a hill
To spy a treasure to own

Clue #4
If treasure's your mark, take a waltz in the park
Be ready to meet your match
Strap on your glove, look up above
For an object ripe for the catch

Clue #3
A bomb cyclone hit our wintry zone On the chin, buckling our knees Get up at your leisure to seek our fine treasure Find fortune and live life of ease

Clue #2
Descend from your perch, set out to search
East Side, west side, all around the town
Glory will reign when you find the chain
To go with your cap and gown

Clue #1
The viral pandemic is now endemic And the battle’s on for Ukraine Take a break from the news to follow your muse
And tackle these rhymes with your brain

1986 at Phalen 
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:04 AM Allison Wonderland via groups.io <AllisonWondrland=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

This is a picture of the 1992 ice palace which I believe was on Harriet Island.

Thank you!!

Here is the new clue

Clue #9
I entered at night, and could see an arched light
And fields where children playeth
If you want exact location, well, that's not my vocation
Where it is? I'll no saith

And the previous clues:

Clue #8
Not with cape, but maybe rake, A hero, by another name, With studious guys, searched for the prize
And up north the puck did claim.
Clue #7
Buddy you're a big star, got a name to go far
Killing it down where they park the car
But you lied to their face, became a big disgrace
Better pack up and get outta this place

Clue #6
Stop all your prattle, you were born for battle
Defend your liberties and rights
Be ever so bold to seize silver and gold
By keeping the prize in your sights

Clue #5
Have you the right stuff to seek diamond in rough?
Then scrounge through stick and cone
If you want a big thrill look for a hill
To spy a treasure to own

Clue #4
If treasure's your mark, take a waltz in the park
Be ready to meet your match
Strap on your glove, look up above
For an object ripe for the catch

Clue #3
A bomb cyclone hit our wintry zone On the chin, buckling our knees Get up at your leisure to seek our fine treasure Find fortune and live life of ease

Clue #2
Descend from your perch, set out to search
East Side, west side, all around the town
Glory will reign when you find the chain
To go with your cap and gown

Clue #1
The viral pandemic is now endemic And the battle’s on for Ukraine Take a break from the news to follow your muse
And tackle these rhymes with your brain

Ben pointed out that the 1973 finders were college students who came up north from Mankato. One of them was named Zielinski which would be a variation of Zelensky which could be the capeless hero and ties back to Clue 1. Everything else could fit multiple parks, but between this and the clue yesterday likely about Phelen, it's hard to ignore and go dig elsewhere.

Wondering what else leads to Phelan other than some of Clue 7 and the “East Side” and “chain” references possibly. Thanks. 

On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:07 PM, Joan Del Rio via groups.io <Terp3303@...> wrote:

WBL girl the 45th parallel is at about Roselawn. There is a marker on Cleveland slightly north of Roselawn. 


On Jan 29, 2023, at 12:13 PM, wblgirl <jacqui@...> wrote:

I saw someone post some where that they thought Bomb Cyclone (BC) was referring to Battle Creek. If you use that mentality, Central Park is between Co Rd B2 and Co Rd C. Just a thought.

WBL girl the 45th parallel is at about Roselawn. There is a marker on Cleveland slightly north of Roselawn. 

I am so sorry that happened to you. I had a wallet stolen out of a stroller there last year and I wasn't far away from it. I hope you get everything squared away. It is so much work to sort all of this out.   :(     

This would be the 50th anniversary of that find.  :) 

I think you're onto something there Ben. I didn't want it to be at Phalen because one of my Winter Carnival Scavenger Hunts is there, but it may well be. It's hard to argue against Clue 7 being about Ed Phelen now that I'm more familiar with the story. I was kind of thinking there on the chain clue as it is part of a chain of lakes, but Como was sounding better. I don't like how it fits some of the clues compared to other parks, but really, that's been a running theme for years now. Johnson High School is nearby. Some of the street names seem to fit. Maybe the Sidewalks of New York thing just means it is near a path?